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Interview with Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA). Interview with Rep. Mikie Sherrill (D-NJ)
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CHRIS HAYES, MSNBC HOST: That is “ALL IN” on this Wednesday night.
THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW starts right now. Good evening, Rachel.
RACHEL MADDOW, MSNBC HOST: Good evening, Chris. Thank you, my friend.
And thanks to you at home for joining us this hour.
Let`s get right to it tonight. There is a lot to get into.
Tomorrow, the January 6th investigation is going to hold their third public hearing. It starts at 1:00 p.m. Eastern. We`ll be doing a primetime recap of that here on MSNBC tomorrow night, starting at 8:00 p.m. Eastern.
But tomorrow`s hearing, whether you watch it live or watch our recap at night, or both, you should know it`s going to focus on the efforts to pressure Vice President Mike Pence. Pressure him into the idea that he personally should refuse — should have refused to count the electoral votes. And he should thereby have thrown out the results of the presidential election on January 6th at the U.S. Capitol.
That, I mean, bottom line — that`s why Trump called for a rally in Washington, D.C. on January 6th. A rally he said would be wild. That`s why he then told the people who showed up, when he called them to D.C., that today, that they should march down to the capitol.
What was happening at the Capitol at that moment? Trump hoped, Trump was trying to engineer, that Mike Pence would reject the votes of the Electoral College and thereby throw the election results out, through the United States government in the chaos, thus allowing for the overthrow of the U.S. government and for Trump to stay in power, even though he had been voted out.
Now, the vice chair of the January 6th investigation, Liz Cheney, put out a statement last night, which we covered here on last night show, in which he said, President Trump was told that any such effort to get pence to do that would be illegal. He was told it was illegal, but he did it anyway. We expect to see a supporting evidence for that claim at tomorrow`s hearing.
Tonight, ABC News published this photo, for the first time, showing Vice President Pence and his family, hiding out in Pence`s ceremonial office on January 6th. This is just off the Senate floor. ABC News says this is when the pro-Trump mob had already broken into the Capitol. It`s just after pence was evacuated and was rushed off the floor of the Senate and hidden in this nearby office.
We know, of course, that the mob did get right on to the Senate floor, they went through papers and senators desks. One of the January 6 defendants, a convict actually, was shown at trial to have left a threat for Mike Pence on the dais, from where Pence had been doing the electoral count.
But in this photo, according to ABC News, Pence had just been evacuated off the Senate floor to this office. The woman you see on the right side of the photo is reportedly his wife, Second Lady Karen Pence. She is hurriedly yanking shut the curtains in the room so that the mob would not be able to see in and see that Mike Pence and his family were in there.
As we know, the mob was screaming that day, hang Mike Pence. At tomorrow`s hearing, there will be live witness testimony from Mike Pence`s chief counsel, his top legal adviser, as well as from conservative former federal appeals court judge Michael Luttig. Michael Luttig played a crucial role in stopping the pot from succeeding on January 6th, stopping the Mike Pence part of the plot from succeeding, when he released a public statement, basically alerting the country to the fact that they were pressuring Pence to personally throw out the electoral vote during the count on January 6th.
Judge Luttig stated in very clear terms that Pence had no authority to do that, that it would be illegal for him to do that. Judge Luttig is very, very influential, particularly on the right. He`s a very high profile, very conservative judge. People like Senator Ted Cruz and Trump lawyer John Eastman. They were…
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