QUESTION: Secretary Blinken, thanks so much for joining us.
SECRETARY BLINKEN: Morning, Jake.
QUESTION: Let’s start with Ukraine, because it’s clear that Russia is openly terrorizing the Ukrainian people with attacks not just on civilians but on civilian infrastructure. There are many in Congress, including Speaker Pelosi, who have called on the Biden administration to label Russia a State Sponsor of Terrorism. Now, I know the White House says that such a move could have unintended consequences, such as delaying food exports, but frankly the Government of Ukraine isn’t buying that explanation. They say that you could avoid that with carve-outs for food and goods. Why haven’t you labeled Russia a State Sponsor of Terrorism?
SECRETARY BLINKEN: Jake, let’s look at what’s happening first. Putin tried to erase Ukraine from the map, erase its identity, subsume it back into Russia – that failed. Then he engaged in a land grab in eastern Ukraine and southern Ukraine – that’s been failing because the Ukrainian military’s been pushing back and taking back a lot of the territory that Putin gained. Now, to your point, what he’s doing is trying to weaponize winter – turn out the lights, turn off the heat, put the Ukrainian people into darkness and cold just as they head into the winter months. This is indeed barbaric. We are pushing back very strongly in our support for Ukraine, making sure that they’re getting the missile defenses they need, working on getting them the different pieces for their energy infrastructure that they need as Putin tries to destroy it.
As to sanctions, we have leveled unprecedented sanctions against Russia, unprecedented export controls, all of that in coordination with dozens of countries. I just got back from meetings at NATO. The solidarity among the NATO partners, the G7 partners is very strong and resolute. So we’re constantly looking at different measures that we can take to, as necessary, increase the pressure. We’re working with Congress right now on legislation that would help us get around some of the challenges of using the State Sponsor of Terrorism designation, which, as you said, has some unintended consequences.
QUESTION: Right.
SECRETARY BLINKEN: We’re finding – working with Congress on a way forward to get to the same place.
QUESTION: So you have imposed these sanctions, that’s true. Here’s another question for you, though. What new costs has the U.S. Government inflicted on Russia for its targeting of Ukrainian civilians and infrastructure since these new bombings started in October? I don’t think there have been any new costs since October.
SECRETARY BLINKEN: Jake, the costs are accumulating every single day, because the impact of the sanctions is both immediate but then it grows over time. And what we’re seeing is Russia having an inability to replace the weapons it’s using, in large part because of the export controls that we put in place, meaning they can’t get the spare parts, they can’t bring things in from the outside. We see across their economy devastating effects from the sanctions that only grow. And in particular, if you’re looking at Russia’s efforts to modernize its economy, whether it – whether it’s energy technology, whether it’s its basic telecommunications infrastructure, whether it’s its defense and aerospace industry, every single day that goes by with these sanctions in place the burden on Russia gets heavier and heavier, its ability to prosecute these kinds of wars gets weaker and weaker.
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